CRUCIFIXION FOR MUSLIMS

I CHALLENGE ANY MUSLIMS TO PROVIDE A SINGLE SAHIH HADITH WERE Muhammad DENIED OR REJECTED THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS ????

Please do not cite a Tafsir which is mere commentary, but rather I want the actual authentic Sunnah of Muhammad. If you cannot find any, then the claim Jesus did not die on the cross should really be scrutinized if you as Muslim are truly seeking the truth.

Folks keep in mind that the Koran is quite clear that Jesus did die as shown in Surah 3:54-55, 5:117 and 19:33. Now let’s turn our focus on the Koran identifying the death of Jesus.

Here is how Islamic scholar Asad translated Surah 3:55 "Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die..." Here is the transliteration of Surah 3:55 "Ith qala Allahu ya AAeesainnee mutawaffeeka warafiAAuka ilayya wamutahhiruka mina allatheena...." (http://www.alim.org/…/c…/3/55/allah's-promise-to-isa-(jesus))

Here is what Asad says in his commentary note 172:

“Cf. 3:55, where God says to Jesus, "Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me." The verb rafa'ahu (lit., "he raised him" or "elevated him") has always, whenever the act of raf' ("elevating") of a human being is attributed to God, the meaning of "honoring" or "exalting". Nowhere in the Qur'an is there any warrant for the popular belief that God has "taken up" Jesus bodily, in his lifetime, into heaven…..”

As noted in an article by M. A. Malek on the Islamic Research Foundation International Webpage, others also translated Surah 3:55 similarly as Asad above.

“Interestingly, in the First Edition of his translation of the Qu’ran, Yusuf Ali translated "inni muttawaffi-ka" (Q3:55) as "I will cause thee to die." A similar translation is given by many others, including George Sale, J.M. Rodwell, N. J. Dawood, Muhammad Asad, Maulana Muhammad Ali, Shaykh Muhammad Shaltut, Allama Ghulam Ahmad Parwez, and so on.

Islamic scholar Muhammad Pickthall translates Surah 3:55 as "I am gathering thee." It should be noted that the language of his translation is "scriptural" and "I am gathering thee" is the Biblical idiom for "I am causing thee to die." (A. A. Karim, member of the Editorial Board).” (Malek, 1998, “The Message,” United Islamic Association (UIA) publication, London, England [http://www.irfi.org]).

Islamic historian Al-Tabari proclaims one way of interpreting Surah 3:55 is with a literal physical death as he states, “Death (wafat) means the death of real, literal dying, that is, “I am causing you to die literally.” (Abu Jaf’ar Muhammad ibn Jarir Al-Tabari, Tafsir al-Tabari: Jami’ al-Bayan ‘an Ta’wil Ay al-Quran, Salah Abd al-Fattah al-Khalidi (ed.) Damascus: Dar al-Qalam, 1997.)

It’s clear by his definition, that Asad agrees the phrase mutawaffeeka means “cause thee to die.” Keeping in the context of Surah 4:157-158, it should be interpreted to indicate the the Jews did not cause Jesus to die but rather it was Allah as he stated this in Surah 3:55, “innee mutaffeeka” meaning “I will cause thee to die.” Note, that Asad acknowledges the Koran does not teach that Allah took Jesus bodily; therefore Allah raised the soul of Jesus. This would imply that the soul left the body; therefore, the body is dead.

Yusuf Ali in his commentary note 4306 states this about death, “….In death we surrender our physical life, but our soul does not die; it goes back to a plane of existence in which it is more conscious of the realities of the spiritual world: "Allah takes the soul" (http://www.alim.org).

Asad - Surah 5:117 "....I bore witness to what they did as long as I dwelt in their midst; but since Thou hast caused me to die (falammatawaffaytanee)...."

Again, the words "tawaffaytani" and "mutawafeeka" are forms of the Arabic word “tawaffa”. The word “tawaffa” refers to physical death. Again we find in the hadiths regarding Surah 5:117 that the term tawaffa means to literally die.

The Arabic word "mutawaffeeka" in general terms means "cause thee to die". Ibn Abbas a companion of Muhammad stated: “Mutawaffeeka [means] ‘I’ll cause you to die’ (Mumeetuka)” (Sahih Bukhari, Kitabut Tafsir 4259, Sura al-Ma’idah).

The term mutawafeeka comes from the word “tawaffa” meaning to take something in full, or complete, and is almost always used to denote a physical death. The Arabic expression tawaffaitani (translated: take me up) is explained by Dr. Mahmud Shaltut, one of the previous presidents of Al-Azhar University: “(It) is entitled in this verse to bear the meaning of ordinary death…there is no way to interpret ‘death’ as occurring after his [Jesus] return from heaven…because the verse very clearly limits the connection of Jesus…to his own people of his own day and the connection is not with the people living at the time when he returns.” (Muslim World, xxxiv, pp. 214 ff; as quoted by Parrinder. Geoffery, Jesus in the Qur'an, pp.115-116; Sheldon Press, London, 1965.)

Here is what one Muslim indicates regarding Tawaffa, “What I discovered on checking every page of the compilations of Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ibn-e-Maja, Abu Dawud, Nasa’I, Darimi, Mu’atta; and Sharh-us-Sunnat etc.; was that the expression Tawaffi has been used three hundred and forty-six times, and in no single instance has it been used, either by the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) or by his companions, to mean anything other than ‘death’, or ‘taking possession of the soul’.... (Izala-e-Auham, Ruhani Khaza’in, volume 3, pp. 583-585).

Here are some examples of the use of Tawaffa in the hadiths.

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 656
Narrated Ibn Abbas: “Allah's Apostle said, "You will be resurrected (and assembled) bare-footed, naked and uncircumcised." The Prophet then recited the Divine Verse:-- "As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it: A promise We have undertaken. Truly we shall do it." (21.104) He added, "The first to be dressed will be Abraham. Then some of my companions will take to the right and to the left. I will say: ‘My companions!’ It will be said, ‘They had been renegades since you left them.’ I will then say what the Pious Slave Jesus, the son of Mary said: ‘And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them; when You did take me up (tawaffaytani), You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things. If You punish them, they are Your slaves, and if you forgive them, You, only You are the All-Mighty the All-Wise.’" (5.117-118) Narrated Quaggas, "Those were the apostates who renegade from Islam during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr who fought them".

Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 149
Narrated by Ibn Abbas (RA): Allah’s Messenger delivered a sermon and said, “O people! You will be gathered before Allah bare-footed, naked and not circumcised.” Then (quoting Qur’an) he said: “As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it. A promise We have undertaken: Truly we shall do it.” (21.104) The Prophet then said, “The first of the human beings to be dressed on the Day of Resurrection, will be Abraham. Lo! Some men from my followers will be brought and then the angels will drive them to the left side (Hell-Fire). I will say. ‘O my Lord! They are my companions!’ Then a reply will come from Allah the Almighty, ‘You do not know what they did after you were gone.’ I will say just as the pious slave the Prophet Jesus (AS) said: “And I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die (Tawaffaitanii), Thou hast been the Watcher over them; and Thou art Witness over all things (5.117) Then it will be said, “These people have continued to be apostates since you left them.”

Here we find that Ibn Abbas was indicating that God took Muhammad (tawaffaytani) in the same manner he took Jesus up to himself. Since we know that Muhammad was taken by death, this strongly argues that Jesus also died before ascending to God.

Author: Trent Smith

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HOW YOUR SHAMANISTIC LIFE START?

When I was in my early teens my best friend and I (this was in the sixties)Like most teens of the time were curious about things we used to get some beer, wine and a lid of the pot and sneak out at night when everyone was asleep and go visit a graveyard across the road. We would drink and smoke our dope in what we thought was peace very disrespectful I know but we were early teens. The first few times were uneventful but as the summer progressed thing started to change and we started hearing and seeing things we were not prepared for voices shadows lights moving around, It seemed to open a door I was never able to close.

Some things followed me home they scared the crap out of me, I tried talking to some friend they thought I was going mental or bull s..ting them I couldn't talk to my folks without confessing about going out and drinking and smoking dope so I learned to live with it most of it was scary but harmless but the shadow people are another problem at about age 16 one hit me in the forehead left a large cut while I was getting ready for bed one night I came out of my room howling who hit me ,family thought I was crazy thing like this followed me all of my life. I learned all I could about these things and started helping others that have these problems they still try to sneak up on me even today last fall while sleeping one came up to the side of my bed while sleeping I awoke and buried my foot in its midsection heard it crash into the wall it was solid but just for a bit turned on the light nothing there . Got up checked the house, all the doors and windows still locked. Did another protection ceremony and went back to bed now my question is anyone else get started like this or have these experiences? Or have encountered shadow beings that turn physical? I await your responses.

Author: Martin Gindulis

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VATICAN AND EARTH'S SHAPE

Why did the Vatican for so long insist in the geocentric view? Some Greeks already thought the earth was round and Earth was rotating around the Sun.
Galileo defended heliocentrism based on his astronomical observations of 1609 (Sidereus Nuncius 1610)

Roman Inquisition in 1615, investigated Galileo Galilei theories and concluded that heliocentrism was "foolish and absurd in philosophy, and formally heretical since it explicitly contradicts in many places the sense of Holy Scripture.

What advantage had the Pope and clergy in not admitting things could be different?
I mean, Columbus had gone to America, trying to reach India (?) in 1492, Portuguese had gone to India contouring Africa by 1498, in 1500 they discovered Brazil. Fernão de Magalhães, organized the Spanish expedition to the East Indies from 1519 to 1522, resulting in the first circumnavigation of the Earth, completed by Juan Sebastián Elcano.
Pope Paul V instructed Cardinal Bellarmine to deliver this finding to Galileo and to order him to abandon the opinion that heliocentrism was physically true. So, why the Pope insisted in something so absurd?
Later Pope Urban VIII personally asked Galileo to give arguments for and against heliocentrism the book, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, ( 1632 !!! ) and to be careful not to advocate heliocentrism. He made another request, that his own views on the matter be included in Galileo's book.

From the religious point of view, why was this so persistently not accepted, if the navigation and science confirmed the factual reality?

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WHY I LEFT ISLAM?

I already told you I was a Muslim and now I'm an atheist who asked me a lot of people why I left faith and became an atheist and you were Muslim then this is I will tell you many reasons that made me leave faith and after a long years search I knew that religions are a human industry that started from simplicity and multi-Earth Gods and then evolved into heavenly and extinct all gods left only one machine and they will also die soon I From Iraq not only I am an atheist there are thousands of atheists from Iraq and the middle east and the number is growing rapidly and then a matter or rather drama Adam and eve and create them from mud this is a farce and contempt for saying I see it is illogical or animals Solomon and bird understand Solomon and lehman understand bird haha or a wooden ship a legend carrying all animals or man balaa whale and yqdẖfẗ after three days live or a man named Imam Mahdi think he lives to now means colony over 1200 years and still alive I think that religion is a lucrative business and then the question of God.

I want to look like God in a father who sends a mother on a trip to a certain area and says to a boy there are two roads on this trip, a temple road, a safe place with rest stations, restaurants, and lots of entertainment. His bloodline will not receive an award and will be punished. And the second way is not a safe temple that doesn't have any amenities or restaurants and the father says to the boy go this way because he will get an award and don't be The Father already knows that the boy will choose the path of the temple (the path of fire and punishment that is ending), yet he sends a mother and he has not enough. And yet he knows that the boy will be a bad end and send him and then describe himself I mean father with mercy, justice, and compassion where are all these qualities from Father's position just ask. And countless reasons don't make man realize that religions are just an idea, and then strange contradictions in a strange wonder.

Author: Konin Jack

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MISTAKE OF CHRISTIANS

Christians say, according to Quran Mary mother of Jesus had a brother named Aaron. But according to Torah Mary sister of Aaron lived hundreds of years before Jesus.

They say, our prophet somehow confused Mary of Torah with Mary of the Gospel. So his revelation isn't from God he made it up because God doesn't make mistake.
But these Christians are making a grave mistake.
It's not actually a historical error.
Because Jews give their children a name according to the biblical figure.

So, suppose someone decided to name his child Imran.
Then, that Imran grew up and studied Torah.he found out the name of the father of Aaron, Moses and Miriam were Imran.

So he was influenced by the Torah and gave his first two children Aaron and Miriam.
It's very probable for someone to do it.
It's not impossible.
If you read gospels you will find out the name of the father of Jesus was Joseph and his grandfather's name was Jacob.

So not only biblical names were given but also the sequence of naming was maintained.
But Christians are concealing this truth.

Author: Sadman Jahangir

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CONTRADICTIONS IN BIBLE

The Bible is an unreliable authority because it contains numerous contradictions. Logically, if two statements are contradictory, at least one of them is false. The biblical contradictions, therefore, prove that the book has many false statements and is not infallible.

Examples of Old Testament Contradictions
The contradictions start in the opening chapters of the Bible, where inconsistent creation stories are told. Genesis chapter 1 says the first man and woman were made at the same time and after the animals. But Genesis chapter 2 gives a different order of creation: man, then the animals, and the woman.

Genesis chapter 1 lists six days of creation, whereas chapter 2 refers to the “day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.” Genesis 1:2-3 claims that God created light and divided it from darkness on the first day; but Genesis 1:14-19 tells us the sun, moon, and stars weren’t made until the fourth day.

Chapter 1 reports that the fruit trees were created before the man, while chapter 2 indicates they were made after him. Genesis 1:20 says the fowl were created out of the waters; Genesis 2:19 alleges they were formed from the ground.

Contradictions are also seen in the biblical story of a worldwide flood. According to Genesis 6:19-22, God ordered Noah to bring “of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort . . . into the ark.” Nevertheless, Genesis 7:2-3 relates that the Lord ordered Noah to take into the ark the clean beasts and the birds by sevens, and only the unclean beasts by twos.

Genesis 8:4 reports that, as the waters of the flood receded, Noah’s ark rested on the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month. The very next verse, however, says the mountaintops could not be seen until the tenth month.

Genesis 8:13 describes the earth as being dry on the first day of the first month. But Genesis 8:14 informs us the earth was not dry until the twenty-seventh day of the second month.

The Old Testament contains an interesting contradiction in the story of the census taken by King David and the resulting punishment of the Israelites. God was so angered by the census that he sent a plague that killed 70,000 men. According to II Samuel 24:1, the Lord had caused David to take the census – which makes the punishment appear even more nonsensical. But an attempt was later made, at I Chronicles 21:1, to improve God’s image by claiming that Satan incited the census.

Further, the Old Testament is contradictory as to whether the Lord commanded the Israelites to sacrifice animals to him. At Jeremiah 7:22, God denies he ever gave the Israelites commandments about animal sacrifices. In contrast, Exodus 29:38-42 and many other verses depict God as requiring the Israelites to offer animal sacrifices.

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HOW DOES A BRAHMIN TOE THE LINE?

How does a brahmin toe the line? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides … (as before) ... Not by buying or selling, he only accepts a brahmin woman by the pouring of water.

Having ensured his progeny through sex, his child makes him happy. Because of this attachment, he stays in his family property and does not go forth from the lay life to homelessness.

As far as the line of the ancient brahmins extends, he doesn’t cross over it. That’s why he’s called a brahmin who toes the line. That’s how a brahmin toes the line.

And how does a brahmin cross the line? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides … (as before) ... Having offered a fee for his teacher, he seeks a wife by both legitimate and illegitimate means. That is, by buying or selling, as well as accepting a brahmin woman by the pouring of water.

He has sex with a Brahmin woman, as well as with a woman from a caste of aristocrats, merchants, workers, outcastes, hunters, bamboo workers, chariot-makers, or waste-collectors. And he has sex with women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or outside the fertile half of the month that starts with menstruation.

His Brahmin wife is there for sensual pleasure, fun, and enjoyment, as well as for procreation. As far as the line of the ancient brahmins extends, he crosses over it. That’s why he’s called a brahmin who crosses the line. That’s how a brahmin crosses the line.

And how is a Brahmin a brahmin outcaste? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides, coming from a clean womb back to the seventh paternal generation, incontestable and irreproachable in discussions about ancestry.

For forty-eight years he lives the spiritual life, from childhood, studying the hymns. Then he seeks a fee for his teacher by legitimate means and illegitimate means. By farming, trade, raising cattle, archery, government service, or one of the professions, not solely by living on alms, not scorning the alms bowl.

Having offered a fee for his teacher, he seeks a wife by both legitimate and illegitimate means. That is, by buying or selling, as well as accepting a brahmin woman by the pouring of water.

He has sex with a Brahmin woman, as well as with a woman from a caste of aristocrats, merchants, workers, outcastes, hunters, bamboo workers, chariot-makers, or waste-collectors. And he has sex with women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or outside the fertile half of the month that starts with menstruation. His Brahmin wife is there for sensual pleasure, fun, and enjoyment, as well as for procreation. He earns a living by any kind of work.

The Brahmins say to him: ‘My good man, why is it that you claim to be a brahmin, but you earn a living by any kind of work.’

He says, ‘It’s like a fire that burns both pure and filthy substances, but doesn’t become corrupted by them. In the same way, my good man, if a brahmin earns a living by any kind of work, he is not corrupted by that.’

A brahmin is called a brahmin outcaste because he earns a living by any kind of work. That’s how a brahmin is a brahmin outcaste.
An 5.192 (final part)

Author: Matthew Simpson

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IS THE QURAN MIRACLE OF MUHAMMAD?

Muslims, you claim the Koran is a miracle associated with Muhammad! What makes the Koran a miracle associated from Muhammad when it was Allah that said he revealed it? Keep in mind it is not a miracle to parrot what someone else was already reciting.

Muslims, let’s make this real easy. Please provide the Koran that was written by Allah, not the modern Koran that was written by unknown authors who never saw this apparent angel let alone your so-called Allah?

ANY DEVIATION FROM THE KORAN TO THE BIBLE WILL BE CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF TOPIC AND PROVE YOU CANNOT REVEAL THE ORIGINAL KORAN FURTHER PROVING YOUR FALSE GOD Al-lah AS A FRAUD.

Using your same logic that you attempt to use with the Christians, the Koran is not the words of Allah but rather the words of so-called contemporaries of Muhammad. You see the Koran was supposedly handed down by an angel to Muhammad, then recited to Muhammad. These so-called recitations were then supposedly memorized, but forgotten by Muhammad and the Hafiz, but also written down on animal skins, rocks, and leaves by unknown authors. What is even more comical is the need for abrogation to try and cover up Muhammad's lies and forgetfulness. However, because of corruption, Uthman burned the Koranic manuscripts after he altered them into one document. Keep in mind this was the second collection of the written material from unknown authors supposedly into one Koran. The first came at the battle of Yamama as Abu Bakr order the Koran to be put in one because much of the Koran was being lost with the Hafiz who died and others did not know what they knew of the Koran. What is even more comical is even after the attempt to cover up Muhammad's blunder, there are still missing Surahs and of course different manuscripts than the Uthman version.

So again, please provide the Koran that your so-called Allah wrote if you are going to stay consistent with your logic and request from the Christians.

How to prove satan's Islamic Allah is false in one post.

The so-called Allah and Islamic theology claim that the Koran is eternal and written on a tablet in Jannah and that the Koran Muslims currently read is exactly the same as the one Allah wrote. This begs the following questions.

If the Koran is eternally written in heaven, then how is it the temporal koran on earth can be abrogated? Does this not presuppose that Allah's eternal Koran was continuously being abrogated as well, or the very least, Allah is not all-knowing? Additionally, since the temporal Koran was being changed, lost, missing, forgotten and burned does this not mean the so-called eternal Koran was undergoing the same since Allah would have to change the eternal Koran to match the temporal one?

Author: Trent Smith

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BRAHMIN AND BRAHMA EQUALITY

“Master Gotama, if anyone should be rightly called a brahmin, it’s me. For I am well born on both my mother’s and father’s side, of pure descent, irrefutable and impeccable in questions of ancestry back to the seventh paternal generation. I recite and remember the hymns, and am an expert in the three Vedas, together with their vocabularies, ritual, phonology and etymology, and the testament as fifth. I know philology and grammar, and am well versed in cosmology and the marks of a great man.”

“Doṇa, the brahmin seers of the past were Aṭṭhaka, Vāmaka, Vāmadeva, Vessāmitta, Yamadaggi, Aṅgīrasa, Bhāradvāja, Vāseṭṭha, Kassapa, and Bhagu. They were the authors and propagators of the hymns, whose hymnal was sung and propagated and compiled in ancient times. These days, Brahmins continue to sing and chant it. They continue chanting what was chanted, reciting what was recited, and teaching what was taught.

Those seers described five kinds of brahmins. A brahmin who is equal to Brahmā, one who is equal to a god, one who toes the line, one who crosses the line, and the fifth is a brahmin outcaste. Which one of these are you, Doṇa?”

“Master Gotama, we don’t know about these five kinds of brahmins. We just know the word ‘brahmin’. Master Gotama, please teach me this matter so I can learn about these five brahmins.”

“Well then, brahmin, listen and pay close attention, I will speak.”

“Yes sir,” Doṇa replied.

The Buddha said this:

“Doṇa, how is a brahmin equal to Brahmā? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides, coming from a clean womb back to the seventh paternal generation, incontestable and irreproachable in discussions about ancestry. For forty-eight years he lives the spiritual life, from childhood, studying the hymns. Then he seeks a fee for his teacher, but only by legitimate means, not illegitimate.

In this context, Doṇa, what is legitimate?

Not by farming, trade, raising cattle, archery, government service, or one of the professions, but solely by living on alms, not scorning the alms bowl. Having offered the fee to his teacher, he shaves off his hair and beard, dresses in ocher robes, and goes forth from the lay life to homelessness.

Then they meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.

They meditate spreading a heart full of compassion … rejoicing … equanimity to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of equanimity to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.

Having developed these four Brahmā meditations, when the body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a good place, a Brahmā realm.

That’s how a brahmin is equal to Brahmā."
An 5.192 (part one)

Author: Matthew Simpson

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MUSLIMS MISINTERPRET THE KORAN

Muslims, you continue to insert conjecture with no supporting evidence from WITHIN the Koran regarding Surah 4:157-159. Your Allah makes a very bold claim in his Koran as shown below, so I wonder if he lied or you just don't know your Koran?

Here are some questions that should be answered WITHIN your Koran, if your Allah is not a false god!!!

1. How was it made to appear to the Jews that Jesus died by crucifixion (Surah 4:157)?

2. How did Jesus die as noted in Surahs 3:55, 5:117 and 19:33?

3. As noted in Surah 4:159: Everybody will believe in whom? Whose death is being referred to in this aya? Please keep in mind that many "People of the Book (Jews)" die every day without believing in Jesus, and the Christians already believe in Him as the Messiah, so who will believe in it, and believe in what?

Muslims did you know that you misinterpret your own Koran, thus proving you lack understanding of the Koranic teachings, and what your Allah is saying?

I challenge Muslims to show me a single Sahih Ahadeeth where Muhammad denies the crucifixion event? I don't want a tafsir, but an actual hadith where Muhammad is supposedly speaking!!!

Nowhere does the Koran deny that Jesus was killed or crucified wholesale, and Muslims who grossly misinterpret Surah 4:157, do so because they know that the Koran is a giant satanic contradiction.

Before determining if Jesus died, we must determine if the claim Jesus was never crucified is substantiated in the Koran itself. So the initial question then becomes, “Does Allah really say Jesus was not crucified in Surah 4:157-158?”

Yusuf Ali
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto himself. Allah was ever mighty, wise.”

In Surah 4:157 who is the "They, Their and Them" that this aya is speaking of? You can read back to Surah 4:154-156 to get the context of aya 157.

From this, it is important to note, that the Koran DOES NOT deny that Jesus was crucified! Rather it denies that the Jews crucified Jesus. This matches up with the Gospel accounts as it was the Romans that crucified Jesus, not the Jews. So when aya 157 says “THEY” did not kill Him nor crucify Him, this is not a denial of the crucifixion but rather an indication of a factual historical event that the Romans themselves crucified Jesus. Additionally, when aya 157 says “it was made to appear to them (Jews) that THEY (Jews) killed Jesus, it should be noted that there are major disagreements among the Islamic scholars what this actually means. However, should this be so? Absolutely not, since the Koran is quite clear what happened to Jesus. Many translators have actually inserted words that are not found in the Arabic for Surah 4:157 as shown below.

In fact, we do find that the Koran defines the term “it appeared to the Jews that they killed Jesus”, because while they killed His body, they could not destroy the soul as taught in the Koran itself.

Secondly, the above interpretation is consistent with the Koran itself, as the following passage will demonstrate that it is Allah himself that causes the death of people.

Surah 8:17
"Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slews them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower."

Thus Surah 4:157 does not deny the crucifixion of Jesus, but rather denies the Jews boast that they killed Jesus, as it was Allah who planned the death of Jesus by crucifixion and resurrection.

Hilali-Khan
Surah 3:54-55
"And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus)], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners."

3:55 - Rodwell
"Remember when God said, "O Jesus! verily I will cause thee to die, and will take thee up to myself and deliver thee from those who believe not; and I will place those who follow thee above those who believe not, until the day of resurrection. Then, to me is your return, and wherein ye differ will I decide between you."

What is even more theologically alarming for Islam is the fact that the crucifixion is only spoken of in one area in the Koran with no true context and not supported by any other Surah (outside of Surah 3:55, 5:117, and 19:33) or Sahih Hadith from Muhammad himself. In fact, this aya appears to come out of nowhere and is presented in such an ambiguous way that not even Islam's great scholars can come to an agreement on the meaning of Surah 4:157-159. However, there are a few verses in the Koran that do speak of Jesus dying, thus, the Muslims find themselves in a rock and a hard place frantically attempting to grasp onto contradictory Tafsir to justify their misconceptions and denial of the Bible’s teachings. In fact, numerous Islamic scholars do believe that Jesus was crucified, and many acknowledge that Jesus did die a physical death and they believe Surah 4:157 speak this. However, as noted above, the Jews believed they killed off Jesus, but while one dies physically, they live on eternally in the spirit. In fact Surah 3:169 alludes to this very same belief – “Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord;” Yusuf Ali explains this concept in note 447 when he cites this, “A beautiful passage about the Martyrs in the cause of Truth. They are not dead: they live,-and in a far higher and deeper sense than in the life they have left. Even those who have no faith in the Hereafter honor those that die in their cause, with the crown of immortality in the minds and memories of generations unborn. But in Faith, we see a higher, truer, and less relative immortality. Perhaps "immortality" is not the right word in this connection, as it implies a continuation of this life. In their case, through the gateway of death, they enter, the true real Life, as opposed to its shadow here.”

Again we find in Surah 2:154 – Yusuf Ali, “And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah: "They are dead." Nay, they are living though ye perceive (it) not.” Here we find that the Apostles which would include Jesus died before Muhammad.
Surah 3:144 – Asad “and Muhammad is only an apostle; all the [other apostles have passed away before him: if, then, he die or is slain, will you turn about on your heels? But he that turns about on his heels can in no wise harm God - whereas God will require all who are grateful [to Him].” We find that in Sahih Bukhari this same claim is reiterated. You will note that it does not say the Rasools have passed except Jesus son of Mary.

So clearly as we read Surah 4:157, we can see that the Injeel is clearly represented in Surah 4:157 as the body of Jesus was crucified as the perfect Lamb of God, but His Spirit is eternal and cannot die.

I CHALLENGE ANY MUSLIMS TO PROVIDE A SINGLE SAHIH HADITH WERE Muhammad DENIED OR REJECTED THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS???? Please do not cite a Tafsir which is mere commentary, but rather I want the actual authentic Sunnah of Muhammad. If you cannot find any, then the claim Jesus did not die on the cross should really be scrutinized if you as Muslim are truly seeking the truth.

Author: Trent Smith

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