Muslims, you continue to insert conjecture with no supporting evidence from WITHIN the Koran regarding Surah 4:157-159. Your Allah makes a very bold claim in his Koran as shown below, so I wonder if he lied or you just don't know your Koran?
Here are some questions that should be answered WITHIN your Koran, if your Allah is not a false god!!!
1. How was it made to appear to the Jews that Jesus died by crucifixion (Surah 4:157)?
2. How did Jesus die as noted in Surahs 3:55, 5:117 and 19:33?
3. As noted in Surah 4:159: Everybody will believe in whom? Whose death is being referred to in this aya? Please keep in mind that many "People of the Book (Jews)" die every day without believing in Jesus, and the Christians already believe in Him as the Messiah, so who will believe in it, and believe in what?
Muslims did you know that you misinterpret your own Koran, thus proving you lack understanding of the Koranic teachings, and what your Allah is saying?
I challenge Muslims to show me a single Sahih Ahadeeth where Muhammad denies the crucifixion event? I don't want a tafsir, but an actual hadith where Muhammad is supposedly speaking!!!
Nowhere does the Koran deny that Jesus was killed or crucified wholesale, and Muslims who grossly misinterpret Surah 4:157, do so because they know that the Koran is a giant satanic contradiction.
Before determining if Jesus died, we must determine if the claim Jesus was never crucified is substantiated in the Koran itself. So the initial question then becomes, “Does Allah really say Jesus was not crucified in Surah 4:157-158?”
Yusuf Ali
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto himself. Allah was ever mighty, wise.”
In Surah 4:157 who is the "They, Their and Them" that this aya is speaking of? You can read back to Surah 4:154-156 to get the context of aya 157.
From this, it is important to note, that the Koran DOES NOT deny that Jesus was crucified! Rather it denies that the Jews crucified Jesus. This matches up with the Gospel accounts as it was the Romans that crucified Jesus, not the Jews. So when aya 157 says “THEY” did not kill Him nor crucify Him, this is not a denial of the crucifixion but rather an indication of a factual historical event that the Romans themselves crucified Jesus. Additionally, when aya 157 says “it was made to appear to them (Jews) that THEY (Jews) killed Jesus, it should be noted that there are major disagreements among the Islamic scholars what this actually means. However, should this be so? Absolutely not, since the Koran is quite clear what happened to Jesus. Many translators have actually inserted words that are not found in the Arabic for Surah 4:157 as shown below.
In fact, we do find that the Koran defines the term “it appeared to the Jews that they killed Jesus”, because while they killed His body, they could not destroy the soul as taught in the Koran itself.
Secondly, the above interpretation is consistent with the Koran itself, as the following passage will demonstrate that it is Allah himself that causes the death of people.
Surah 8:17
"Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slews them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower."
Thus Surah 4:157 does not deny the crucifixion of Jesus, but rather denies the Jews boast that they killed Jesus, as it was Allah who planned the death of Jesus by crucifixion and resurrection.
Hilali-Khan
Surah 3:54-55
"And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus)], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners."
3:55 - Rodwell
"Remember when God said, "O Jesus! verily I will cause thee to die, and will take thee up to myself and deliver thee from those who believe not; and I will place those who follow thee above those who believe not, until the day of resurrection. Then, to me is your return, and wherein ye differ will I decide between you."
What is even more theologically alarming for Islam is the fact that the crucifixion is only spoken of in one area in the Koran with no true context and not supported by any other Surah (outside of Surah 3:55, 5:117, and 19:33) or Sahih Hadith from Muhammad himself. In fact, this aya appears to come out of nowhere and is presented in such an ambiguous way that not even Islam's great scholars can come to an agreement on the meaning of Surah 4:157-159. However, there are a few verses in the Koran that do speak of Jesus dying, thus, the Muslims find themselves in a rock and a hard place frantically attempting to grasp onto contradictory Tafsir to justify their misconceptions and denial of the Bible’s teachings. In fact, numerous Islamic scholars do believe that Jesus was crucified, and many acknowledge that Jesus did die a physical death and they believe Surah 4:157 speak this. However, as noted above, the Jews believed they killed off Jesus, but while one dies physically, they live on eternally in the spirit. In fact Surah 3:169 alludes to this very same belief – “Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord;” Yusuf Ali explains this concept in note 447 when he cites this, “A beautiful passage about the Martyrs in the cause of Truth. They are not dead: they live,-and in a far higher and deeper sense than in the life they have left. Even those who have no faith in the Hereafter honor those that die in their cause, with the crown of immortality in the minds and memories of generations unborn. But in Faith, we see a higher, truer, and less relative immortality. Perhaps "immortality" is not the right word in this connection, as it implies a continuation of this life. In their case, through the gateway of death, they enter, the true real Life, as opposed to its shadow here.”
Again we find in Surah 2:154 – Yusuf Ali, “And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah: "They are dead." Nay, they are living though ye perceive (it) not.” Here we find that the Apostles which would include Jesus died before Muhammad.
Surah 3:144 – Asad “and Muhammad is only an apostle; all the [other apostles have passed away before him: if, then, he die or is slain, will you turn about on your heels? But he that turns about on his heels can in no wise harm God - whereas God will require all who are grateful [to Him].” We find that in Sahih Bukhari this same claim is reiterated. You will note that it does not say the Rasools have passed except Jesus son of Mary.
So clearly as we read Surah 4:157, we can see that the Injeel is clearly represented in Surah 4:157 as the body of Jesus was crucified as the perfect Lamb of God, but His Spirit is eternal and cannot die.
I CHALLENGE ANY MUSLIMS TO PROVIDE A SINGLE SAHIH HADITH WERE Muhammad DENIED OR REJECTED THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS???? Please do not cite a Tafsir which is mere commentary, but rather I want the actual authentic Sunnah of Muhammad. If you cannot find any, then the claim Jesus did not die on the cross should really be scrutinized if you as Muslim are truly seeking the truth.
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Here are some questions that should be answered WITHIN your Koran, if your Allah is not a false god!!!
1. How was it made to appear to the Jews that Jesus died by crucifixion (Surah 4:157)?
2. How did Jesus die as noted in Surahs 3:55, 5:117 and 19:33?
3. As noted in Surah 4:159: Everybody will believe in whom? Whose death is being referred to in this aya? Please keep in mind that many "People of the Book (Jews)" die every day without believing in Jesus, and the Christians already believe in Him as the Messiah, so who will believe in it, and believe in what?
Muslims did you know that you misinterpret your own Koran, thus proving you lack understanding of the Koranic teachings, and what your Allah is saying?
I challenge Muslims to show me a single Sahih Ahadeeth where Muhammad denies the crucifixion event? I don't want a tafsir, but an actual hadith where Muhammad is supposedly speaking!!!
Nowhere does the Koran deny that Jesus was killed or crucified wholesale, and Muslims who grossly misinterpret Surah 4:157, do so because they know that the Koran is a giant satanic contradiction.
Before determining if Jesus died, we must determine if the claim Jesus was never crucified is substantiated in the Koran itself. So the initial question then becomes, “Does Allah really say Jesus was not crucified in Surah 4:157-158?”
Yusuf Ali
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto himself. Allah was ever mighty, wise.”
In Surah 4:157 who is the "They, Their and Them" that this aya is speaking of? You can read back to Surah 4:154-156 to get the context of aya 157.
From this, it is important to note, that the Koran DOES NOT deny that Jesus was crucified! Rather it denies that the Jews crucified Jesus. This matches up with the Gospel accounts as it was the Romans that crucified Jesus, not the Jews. So when aya 157 says “THEY” did not kill Him nor crucify Him, this is not a denial of the crucifixion but rather an indication of a factual historical event that the Romans themselves crucified Jesus. Additionally, when aya 157 says “it was made to appear to them (Jews) that THEY (Jews) killed Jesus, it should be noted that there are major disagreements among the Islamic scholars what this actually means. However, should this be so? Absolutely not, since the Koran is quite clear what happened to Jesus. Many translators have actually inserted words that are not found in the Arabic for Surah 4:157 as shown below.
In fact, we do find that the Koran defines the term “it appeared to the Jews that they killed Jesus”, because while they killed His body, they could not destroy the soul as taught in the Koran itself.
Secondly, the above interpretation is consistent with the Koran itself, as the following passage will demonstrate that it is Allah himself that causes the death of people.
Surah 8:17
"Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slews them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower."
Thus Surah 4:157 does not deny the crucifixion of Jesus, but rather denies the Jews boast that they killed Jesus, as it was Allah who planned the death of Jesus by crucifixion and resurrection.
Hilali-Khan
Surah 3:54-55
"And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus)], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners."
3:55 - Rodwell
"Remember when God said, "O Jesus! verily I will cause thee to die, and will take thee up to myself and deliver thee from those who believe not; and I will place those who follow thee above those who believe not, until the day of resurrection. Then, to me is your return, and wherein ye differ will I decide between you."
What is even more theologically alarming for Islam is the fact that the crucifixion is only spoken of in one area in the Koran with no true context and not supported by any other Surah (outside of Surah 3:55, 5:117, and 19:33) or Sahih Hadith from Muhammad himself. In fact, this aya appears to come out of nowhere and is presented in such an ambiguous way that not even Islam's great scholars can come to an agreement on the meaning of Surah 4:157-159. However, there are a few verses in the Koran that do speak of Jesus dying, thus, the Muslims find themselves in a rock and a hard place frantically attempting to grasp onto contradictory Tafsir to justify their misconceptions and denial of the Bible’s teachings. In fact, numerous Islamic scholars do believe that Jesus was crucified, and many acknowledge that Jesus did die a physical death and they believe Surah 4:157 speak this. However, as noted above, the Jews believed they killed off Jesus, but while one dies physically, they live on eternally in the spirit. In fact Surah 3:169 alludes to this very same belief – “Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord;” Yusuf Ali explains this concept in note 447 when he cites this, “A beautiful passage about the Martyrs in the cause of Truth. They are not dead: they live,-and in a far higher and deeper sense than in the life they have left. Even those who have no faith in the Hereafter honor those that die in their cause, with the crown of immortality in the minds and memories of generations unborn. But in Faith, we see a higher, truer, and less relative immortality. Perhaps "immortality" is not the right word in this connection, as it implies a continuation of this life. In their case, through the gateway of death, they enter, the true real Life, as opposed to its shadow here.”
Again we find in Surah 2:154 – Yusuf Ali, “And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah: "They are dead." Nay, they are living though ye perceive (it) not.” Here we find that the Apostles which would include Jesus died before Muhammad.
Surah 3:144 – Asad “and Muhammad is only an apostle; all the [other apostles have passed away before him: if, then, he die or is slain, will you turn about on your heels? But he that turns about on his heels can in no wise harm God - whereas God will require all who are grateful [to Him].” We find that in Sahih Bukhari this same claim is reiterated. You will note that it does not say the Rasools have passed except Jesus son of Mary.
So clearly as we read Surah 4:157, we can see that the Injeel is clearly represented in Surah 4:157 as the body of Jesus was crucified as the perfect Lamb of God, but His Spirit is eternal and cannot die.
I CHALLENGE ANY MUSLIMS TO PROVIDE A SINGLE SAHIH HADITH WERE Muhammad DENIED OR REJECTED THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS???? Please do not cite a Tafsir which is mere commentary, but rather I want the actual authentic Sunnah of Muhammad. If you cannot find any, then the claim Jesus did not die on the cross should really be scrutinized if you as Muslim are truly seeking the truth.
Author: Trent Smith